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We were created to worship. And we are to worship God with every aspect and area of our lives - presenting our bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God.

The Church

The bride of Christ can often times be difficult and messy - but it is Christ's beautiful mess - to which He is the head and chief cornerstone.

Ancient Future

Our faith comes out from a rich heritage and history. It was during the formative years of our faith that creeds, confessions, traditions, and liturgies were developed. These practices and traditions recaptured will not only anchor us but move us forward in our faith.


There is freedom in the gospel as it proclaims that in Christ we are sons and daughters of the King. The importance is learning to preach those truths to our heart and life everyday.

Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Moth or Cockroaches

I have just finished Neil Cole's book, "The Organic Church"

There are two type of lost people (or I would say responses from lost people) in the world, the moths and the cockroaches. In the darkness, it's impossible to tell them apart, so the best way to discover the difference is to turn the light on. The moths will be drawn to the light, and the cockroaches will fell. Jesus told us that we are a light that should not be hidden even behind stained-glass window (Matt. 5:14-16). Most of us don't turn all the lights on in our home during the day. Why? A lamp isn't needed during the daylight. Light is made for the darkness. "You are the light of the world" (Matt. 5:14). We should be brought out into the darkness so that we can shine." p. 179

Our purpose is to be the light, God has to prepare their hearts, we don't control their response.

Monday, April 24, 2006

Cisco engineer gets prize for longest commute - Silicon Valley/San Jose Business Journal:

Cisco engineer gets prize for longest commute - Silicon Valley/San Jose Business Journal:: "Cisco engineer gets prize for longest commute
Silicon Valley/San Jose Business Journal - April 12, 2006

Mariposa resident Dave Givens makes a 186-mile drive -- each way -- five days a week to his job in San Jose.

The electrical engineer has been doing that commute since 1989, spending seven hours every day getting to and from work at Cisco Systems Inc. (NASDAQ:CSCO).

Givens is the 'ultimate road warrior,' according to Midas Inc. and drove home with its first-place prize in the nationwide search for 'America's Longest Commute.' Givens out-drove thousands of other entrants to take home $10,000 in gas money and a range of maintenance services and products.

'I have a great job and my family loves the ranch where we live,' Givens said. 'So this is the only solution.'

On his long trek he said he listens to the radio, keeps his eyes on the road and drinks 'a lot of coffee.'"

- His family may love the ranch where they live and their dad's income, but his kids don't have their dad, nor does his wife have her husband. Is it all worth it? - Bill

Thursday, April 20, 2006

Vacation to Florida

Got back last week from Florida. Had a chance to see family, both Lauren and my parents and some friend Got some reading finished.

Read David Brooks' book "On Paradise Drive", recommend those who are doing ministry in the suburbs or "exurbs".

And I was on a role, for I also finished Brian McLaren's latest book, "The Secret Message of Jesus." McLaren's book always intrigue me and make me think. There are parts that I will disagree and other times he will greatly provoke my thinking. This book definitely didn't disappoint. I appreciated his unpacking the theme of the kingdom and I found his thoughts valuable. In the day and age of the Davinci Code and Gospel of Judas, I just wish he would have picked a different title. Altogether, a very fun, relaxing and enjoyable Florida vacation, reading, relaxing and soaking in the sun.